From the world of "thinking" to the world of "sense"

 

──When did the heavy sauna people get into the sauna?

 

Sotaro Kushi (Kushi): I used to go to the sauna for a long time, but I was always an "unaware sauna". However, the round trip between the "hot room" and the "cold pond (water bath)" was "somehow comfortable", but I met Katanaka Tanaka's "Saido" and became a conscious sauna.

 

The reason why I was able to become a conscious sauna is that the wet sauna hood of a professional sauna, who is one of my good friends with Katsuki, invented the word “Totonit”, which expresses the ecstasy of the sauna. When I saw those words, I became aware of the comfort of the sauna and became able to enter a more “Totono” state.

 

Katsuki Tanaka (hereinafter Tanaka): My "Hatsu to Toi" was around 2008. After that, I started to research various things and started to publish a series of sauna essays on the web, so I have a sauna history of about 10 years.

 

Misaki: I got into the sauna three years ago. My husband started getting addicted to the sauna. At that time, I used to be the type of woman who prefers a bedrock bath, which is common in women.

 

When my husband came back from the sauna, I couldn't understand that I was blank. If I think about it now, it may have been in a state where it was "to the point", but if I complained to it, I was forced to take him, saying "I will understand when I go to the sauna together", and that was the reason.

 

The debut is Sauna Shikiji, a sacred place for saunas that you would want to visit once in a lifetime. After that, I was totally addicted to it, and when I moved two years ago, I became so fond of putting a sauna at home.

Sauna lovers like you often use the word "tonito", but what exactly is this? Is the effect only obtained in the sauna?

 

Tanaka: To put it simply, I think that the state of swelling is "the ecstasy of a hot-cold alternating bath."

 

I'm mostly deskwork at work and I'm always in the "world of thought." If it lasts for 8 hours, I still want to jump out. Before I knew about the sauna, for example, I used to take a walk, eat delicious food, go to a hot spring, travel, listen to music, and so on. However, when a sauna appeared there, it suddenly exceeded that sort of thing. That's the charm of being immersed in the "world of sensation".

 

I think that a sauna is the same "excitement" as having a good night's sleep or eating delicious food. Anyway it feels good.

 

People can't dislike pleasant things. It's hard to let go of feeling good and being in a good mood. If you make it a habit to have such a "comfortable time" for several hours a day, you will not be able to get out anymore.

 

 

Next page> The charm of being immersed in the "world of sensations"

Katsuki Tanaka (Photo provided)

 

Kushi: For a sauna, how to do it without a sauna is a big theme. It's a maniac story.

 

Tanaka: It makes me feel good and I feel better when I enter the sauna once, but if I continue doing this for many years, I feel that my constitution is changing. It is often said that becoming a habit makes you mentally stable.

 

I wake up at 4am and work on tasks every 20 minutes, but I usually finish my work in the morning and go to the sauna in the afternoon to heal my imagination while being healed. Is doing every day.

 

Kushi: It's great that we have built in tasks by carefully considering such things as "not getting tired" and "not getting tired".

 

Tanaka: The theme has always been "how to rest," but I'm just thinking about indulging myself (laughs).

 

 

Misaki

 

Misaki: To me, a sauna is a "whole body beauty". I have used various cosmetics until now, but the number of them has decreased dramatically. If you continue to use the sauna, your skin will change. If the skin changes, the makeup will be lighter, and it will take less time to remove it. The beauty side became the most fun.

 

Tanaka: You say that the sauna is also called "organic cosmetics". Actually, the skin changes the most. That's why my senior has almost 50 years of experience in a sauna, and the butt is so smooth. It's a waste to be a man. It's like ceramics (laughs).

Next page> Japan is rich in water sources such as rivers and lakes.

Kushi: And after all, the sauna is really fun. There are several reasons why you can feel the fun, but one of them is the "gap". Even if you think that a sauna is hot and cold, when you open the sauna door, you can see a world that you couldn't see "it was such a world". It's a great experience that you can experience what you didn't know about "Totou".

 

Second, the blood vessels are simply pumped up, which makes it physically overwhelmingly fun. You can enjoy a state like runners high without moving your body. That is extremely intense.

 

And the third is that Japan is a "sauna paradise". This is also the case with many facilities, and because the water sources such as rivers and lakes are very abundant, there is an environment where it is easy to play in a sauna as an outdoor field. For the past two years, my friends around me are the only ones who go to the "tent sauna" where they enjoy the sauna outdoors on weekends. There is also an environment where you can enjoy the sauna.

 

 

Mr. Kushi (Photo provided)

 

Tanaka: In a sauna, you can experience the direct contact with parts of nature such as fire, water, steam, and wind. It's hard to get in touch with such nature while being in the city. So for me, the sauna is similar to the feeling that parents play with their children outside. It's physical play.

 

 

Sauna is "the best rest"

 

──What is the biggest benefit of toto in the sauna?

 

Tanaka: I think it means “getting a good rest”. Isn't it surprisingly difficult to "take a rest"? For example, if you're playing Goron on the couch and your thoughts are working, you're still in the "world of thought," so I think that your brain isn't really resting.

 

Kushi: Japanese people are too bad at rest.

 

Tanaka: I said that "the ecstasy of a hot and cold bath" is a good effect of a sauna, but for some people our sauna time may be yoga time or meditation time. not.

 

However, technique is necessary for the meditation and mindfulness. Even if you ask me to meditate, it's surprisingly difficult to get out of the world of thinking. But it's good to have a sauna forcing you to dive into the "feeling" or "hot" or "cold" world.

 

Kushi: Yoga also has a long training period, and people who practice meditation often don't really enjoy the value. When I try to forget the world of thought and do yoga or meditation, on the contrary, I sometimes get stuck in the loop of thought because I can not get away from thought.

 

However, the sauna can be warped at once by simply going back and forth between a 10-minute sauna room and a 1-minute water bath. It's very attractive, isn't it? I think that "sauna is the best rest".

Next page> Is it possible that the sauna will save Japan?

 

──So, in the business world where sympathetic nerves tend to dominate, you came to a sauna when you wanted a place to release from it.

 

Kushi: Japan is a country with low per capita GDP and productivity, and there are many holidays, so working hours are getting shorter. Even so, why are Japanese people so tired? The reason why Japanese people who don't work long and have many holidays are so tired is that they are not good at resting.

 

The only reason people have to rest is to maximize productivity and creativity from a business perspective. In other words, people are still tired when they spend more holidays and less time working. The state of being tired greatly reduces human productivity and creativity.

 

In order to solve this, I need a good quality rest, but I think that it is a big problem in Japan that you do not rest well in your spare time or pay attention to rest.

 

Tanaka: Sauna and delicious food are a set. Isn't it enough just to eat delicious food and sleep well? If you think so, you don't have the option of not going to the sauna.

 

 

(Mr. Misaki's home sauna)

 

Misaki: Yes. The good thing about the home sauna is that you can put it in when you want and it's clean. I turned on the sauna right after I got up in the morning, and it was warm while I was doing some cleaning. From there the day begins. It's already a part of my life.

 

Kushi: Resting is extremely important for the Japanese economy and the well-being of each person, and we just need to commit to it. For that reason, the sauna is a very useful and important tool, and I think it may be the sauna that saves Japan.

 

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Shotaro Kushi ◎ Representative Director of NEW STANDARD. Born in 1984. After graduating from junior high school, studied in the United States. After graduating from high school at age 16, he started a business. After returning to Japan, joined DELL at the age of 19 and became the top salesman in the corporate sales department at the age of 20. Retired from the company for two years from the age of 21 to 23 and traveled to 25 countries around the world. After returning to work, he became manager of the service sales department at the age of 25. After leaving the company, engaged in social business in Miyazaki prefecture. Founded TABILABO (currently NEW STANDARD) in 2014, and led the company name change and CI rebranding to NEW STANDARD in August 2019.

 

Katsuki Tanaka ◎ A manga artist. 1966, born in Osaka. Debuted as a manga artist in 1985. His books include "Backlight" and "Ossu!" "Tonko-chan", "Sadou", and "Bakadrill" with Seiichi Amaku. He also worked on the original plan for the capsule toy "Fuchiko of the cup". Besides the sauna, he is also familiar with aquatic plants.

 

Misaki ◎ model. Finnish ambassador officially certified by the Finnish Tourism Board. Sauna spa professional. Miss Universe Japan 3rd place, Model Collection Grand Prix award. As a sauna enthusiast, I can't forget the days when I encountered a sauna at "Shikiji" and touched a real sauna in Finland. While doing model activities, he loves the sauna and water bath and enjoys the sauna life.